I got my first split keyboard thanks to you. It arrived yesterday and while I still suck with it (ortholinear layout is weird, I always find myself overreaching). I got the Keebio iris rev 8, but something tells me this is just the beginning of the rabbit hole.
I recently got into split keyboards and I'm loving it. Could you share how you got your glove80's attached to the chair?
I got the Glove80 from first batch and I'm perfectly used to it now, it is my first ergo / nextgen keyboard, I love it, I don't like using usual keyboards now. Howerer, I had a different experience than you learning to use it. To learn Glove80, you have to switch using the pinky to using the thumb for most of the main modifier and main keys: Ctrl, Shift, Alt, Enter, Backspace, Delete. This was hard to learn and unintuitive for days, ~2-3 weeks. The thumbs now have 4-6 frequent keys to manage instead of 1,5. But it's definitely worth it, I am no longer twisting my wrist all the time to hit Shift+X or Ctrl+X or Ctrl+Shift/Alt+X (it is often usefull even when coding in Vim), this is a MASSIVE game changer in typing comfort, undoubtly worth it !! Yeah the battery lasts way longer (2-3 month for left half) than what is advertised (3weeks for left half), as long as you don't use the lights I guess. I think the right half lasts 4-6 month when the battery is new and you don't use lights xD
I am a huge keyboard snob - Couldn't live without my Kinesis' (plural) - However you have given me reason to look much closer at the glove80 - Thanks for the thoroughness!
"80% learning on day 1 while making the move form traditional key layout to orthogonal keys" is a complete overstatement and I would even go on to say its misguiding (sorry). It took me well over a month to get to my normal rhythm with the new layout. The change in the feeling from "Aargh! why I bought this keyboard" to "I can't live without this keyboard" came around the turn of the week 2 to week 3. I have gone through other review videos and they share similar feedback, check other reviews out for yourself before investing. I am a model developer and have been using my Kinesis for more than 2 years now. Apart from that, nice video :)
starship captain style is so comfortable. Glove 80 seems to tick all the boxes for me; even small things like thumb key placement matters.
I genuinely enjoyed your insights on the Glove80. Your balanced and thoughtful evaluation of such an innovative ergonomic keyboard is impressive. The way you emphasize how design choices influence everyday typing comfort is particularly valuable, especially with layouts as unique as this one. Looking forward to more of your reviews!
Give me a glove 36! It's not for everyone to only use 36 keys, but the Choc options for a curved keywell 36 key board is basically custom or nothing.
Would be nice to see the video with a deep dive inside your ZMK layout: how you manage it, how your HRM is configured, number or layers, how you switch between them and etc
Just found this. This is an excellent review of the Glove80. Additionally, it's a good overview of the ortho landscape. I believe I came away from this video with a better understanding of the Glove80's place in the ortho hierarchy. Also, I understand these alternate keyboard layouts much better. Thank you.
You should try the sunset tactile switches, they feel a lot heavier than the linears but they're so nice.
This is a good video, as a rust developer trying to build a corne, which was working for awhile, it is very rewarding. I have also been looking into the other main keyboards voyager, dygma defy, globe and a unicorn lp for the next keyboard. Having short stubby fingers I have found the corne lp with choc keycaps a little bit crowded.
I just got mine today and its amazing!
i've been dreaming of a pre built wireless split ergo keyboard for a while now so I'm glad this showed up in my recommended
I had a much longer learning curve to get competent with the glove80, coming from a non-split board. I can type ~100 WPM on a traditional board, and I'm currently averaging 70 WPM on the glove80 after about a month of daily use. The first few days I felt like I had holes in my brain trying to find the keys. Once I was comfortable with the layout, I still had to break habits that caused me to make errors. Most of my errors occur on keys near the inside of the board, because these keys are the easiest to reach when "crossing over" the middle line. Another habit to break is "rolling" multiple fingers on keys from the same column, which is essentially impossible in an ortholonear layout.
this is exactly what i need! so glad i found this video
I bought the Glove80 because of your review, have used it for a week, and have decided it is not for me. It's mainly due to (1) the raised pinky finger rows, which I can't get used to, (2) the keycaps are too slippery (I prefer some textured touch), and, as you have pointed out, (3) too many keys (can do without the top 2 rows). Also, the 1-year warranty compared to the 2-year+ warranty from other premium keyboard manufacturers (ZSA & Dygma) shows Moergo's lack of confidence in the longevity of the keyboard. Not to mention plastic vs metal. The good things I find about Glove80 are (1) excellent documentation and (2) the Custom Defined Behaviours in the Layout Editor, which are helpful for power users. In the meantime, I have switched back to my Corne keyboard and put in an order for a ZSA Voyager. If anyone is interested in getting a Glove80, you can find my 1 week old Glove80 v2 and the tripod mounting kit on eBay tomorrow.
Spot on with the first con: it has 2 more rows than it needs. Layers are better for ergo, would love a smaller version.
How did you attach it to the chair. Can you make a video about that?
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