@testrabbit

Love this book. It's understandable by most casual readers, too, and I recommend it often to people. Mr Vedral is in good company with others like Eric Verlinde et al.

@sngscratcher

Tom Campbell puts forth an interesting model of reality, which coincides with much of what Vlatko is talking about. Cheers.

@pamelabrown3058

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@testrabbit

Yes so the question in that last little comment was whether or not you think this might be a possible resolution given our current observational capabilities and measurement capabilities.

@tracygrindel6512

I'm learning alot. I have light language episodes and every time it happens it's a rude shock. It upsets me and It takes a few days to get over the thought of suicide. I'm happy when I think about violence and theirs something wrong thinking that. I feel like I know deep in my heart but I can't remember, I don't know why and I dont know how I can help myself process all this meaning. It's right there on the tip of my tongue and it's hard to explain.

@testrabbit

I've a question for you guys and if the implications are clear I'll elaborate, but it goes something like this: according to g. relativity an object can both collide and not collide with another object. We have counter-evidence to this occurring in the fact that we've actually seen a star collide with the approximated event horizon of a black hole. If you follow the tenets of relativity it should both happened and not happen... So maybe because of acceleration being quantize what's happening is that during a Lorentz contraction of a spatial dimension some of space itself actually ceases to exist to the accelerating or the object with a certain velocity in accordance with quantum principles which would prevent the paradox of collision and not collision. If this weren't the case we wouldn't see what we're seeing so there has to be some kind of quantisation of acceleration and velocity at the macroscopic level that we're not currently capable of measuring with our detection instruments.

@testrabbit

The only thing I disagree with mr. Vedral on is that exceeding c sub v isn't possible according to general relativity. What is impossible is going at c sub v, and I see two possible immediate problems with the assumption: first of all, we have never been able to create an absolute vacuum nordaz one exists anywhere in nature that we are aware of. Accordingly, photons and other supposedly massless particles don't even travel at that velocity they travel at an effective one as per medium in question. And secondly, there's an assumption that acceleration isn't quantized, because if it is going over the speed of light in a vacuum might actually be completely possible given that you don't have to go through it to exceed it. Cherenkov radiation is the quad erat demonstrandum that it is possible. Furthermore there have been public experiments that could probably be scaled up where it might be possible to use incoming Unruh radiation to accelerate a macroscopic object, because the same problem exists with Unruh radiation predictions that exists when thinking about requiring infinite energy to exceed c sub v. At some point the incoming radiation as per Unruh would essentially become infinite and they have engineered small-scale situations in the laboratory that could be scaled up to interstellar spacecraft level whereby something with negative effect of mass could be coupled to the front of some sort of craft and the incoming radiation would give an equal magnitude but in the direction for the reaction that would occur from the impact and transfer of energy. There are many experiments that have demonstrated some anomalies, as well. Some of the show that it might be possible to engineer something like a submarine ballast and give a ship's overall mass a negative effective value. Amongst other strange experiments that all the free prints are available for peer-review on arxiv.org is a particularly curious experiment that was performed by two scientists Tajmar & deMatos with the initial preprint being published in 2004. It was an accidental observation during a different experiment whereby a rotating condensed-matter superconductor changed the measurable mass value on another condensed-matter object on a different floor in the laboratory. I invite everyone to look at this as well as some of the quantized acceleration explanations for the miniscule but measurable acceleration observed by Cannae drive models.

@testrabbit

As for information transfer at velocities that would potentially exceed c sub v in an existing network of ground to satellite technologies counterfactually, using a direct quantum counterfactual protocol developed in China and announced in May of 2017 the purported results by the Chinese researchers indicated that they were able to counter factually transmit the image of a Chinese knot from ground to satellite using these protocols and I have yet to see that paper refuted.

@santiagowechsler

is dark matter information less matter? can that be?

@JohnMccart777

powerful discussion. Oddly enough extremely spiritual, or perhaps that is merely wishful thinking on my part

@JamesRushingRewardBeauty

Please review my cosmology paper, How The Universe Emerged From The Void.
“ We can unify all through the understanding that everything consists of bits of information, though that raises the question of where these bits come from.” - Vlatko Vedral

My information theory answers Professor Vedral's question - “...where did these bits come from?”


                    HOW THE UNIVERSE EMERGED FROM THE VOID

What Caused the Big Bang? Something from nothing.
 “Everything is information” - Vlatko Vedral
  James Rushing 6.30.16 LB, CA
This Creation Theory shows how information was first created; how law, existence, energy, matter, time and space, emerged from the Void and created the Universe.
THE  LAW
The first law of identity: Identity Precedes Existence.
An identity must have two or more attributes to exist - an existent must be something before it is. 
EXISTENCE 
The Void had three attributes: the Void was necessary, sufficient and potentially the Universe, therefore, the Void had an Identity, and so, the Void had existence.
ENERGY
Upon having existence, the Void combined with the force of its identity and created a new and unique identity - the second law of identity.
The second law of identity: every existent has an identity and the force of its identity. 
The Void, the Force of it's Identity and the First and Second Laws of Identity were the first Identities to be created. 

Third law of identity 
Now, the Void, the force of its identity and the first two laws of identity combined and created a new and unique identity - the third law of identity.
Third law of identity: no two identities may occupy the same location. Every identity seeks to maintain its identity. 
This law is the source of the first expansion.
Matter
Next, these five identities combined to create the fourth law of identity.
Fourth law of identity: two or more identities may combine to create a new identity. 
Time
Next, these six identities combined to create the fifth law of identity.
Fifth law of identity: time is created to “complete” each creation cycle. 
Space
Space does not exist and never did. What seems to be space is the field of information bits that expanded after the big bang. 
How quantum information emerged from nothing.
These were the first seven identities to exist: the void, the force of its identity, the first, second, third, fourth and fifth laws of identity. 
These seven, unique identities, combined, according to the fourth law of identity, to create an eighth, new and unique identity; then, these eight combined to create a ninth; and these nine combined to create a tenth, unique identity, etc.  
Where a=the Void, b=the force of the void's Identity, c=first law of Identity, d=second law, e=third law, f=fourth law, g=fifth law, h=new existent, i=new existent, etc.  a+b=c>a+b+c=d>a+b+c+d=e>a+b+c+d+e=f>a+b+c+d+e+f=g>a+b+c+d+e+f+g=h>a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h=i>a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i=j>a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j=k>etc.
This Creation of Information Mechanism “cycled” for billions or trillions of years creating a “field of information” that expanded with each cycle, creating our Universe as a continuous “tape” of information. 
THE BIG BANG
The Information Creation Mechanism filled the Universe to a maximum size and density, and then collapsed to a point of maximum density, and with a Big Bang, exploded, creating the second expansion of information, this time with “bits of information,” each “bit” containing all the information and energy necessary to create matter, the cosmos, and life, according to the Laws of Identity.
LAWS OF IDENTITY
First law of identity: identity precedes existence.
Second law of identity: every existent has an identity and the force of its identity. 
Third law of identity:  no two identities may occupy the same location, or, every identity seeks to maintain its location.
Fourth law of identity: two or more identities may combine to create a new identity.
Fifth law of identity : time is created to combine identities to create new identities . the universe is in a constant state of combining. creation takes time.
IMPLICATIONS
Everything is information 
Everything is information is the Theory Of Everything 
A is A, Existence Exists. What a thing is, determines what it does - Cause and Effect.
The Laws of Identity are Universal. 
Information is Identity.
The Law of Identity, A=A , is also known as the Law of non-contradiction and the Law of the Excluded Middle.
A=A is the fundamental equation, and the source of Reason, Logic, Science, and, the source of Spiritually, Truth, Love, Freedom and Art; which are the values that create the deep, underlying unity of all that exists. 
Information, combining and recombining, creating new information, according to the Laws Of Identity, is “the creation mechanism that created the universe.” 
The Laws Of Identity control creation, design, evolution, and the now; making the Universe self-creating, self-contained and self-explaining.
The Force of Identity created the Laws of Physics that built the Universe and created life. Life was followed by consciousness and modern humans. 
The Force of Identity was the First Force to be created, and is the creator of the Known Forces that created and govern the Universe. They are, in order of creation, the Force of Identity/the Electromagnetic Force, the Strong Force, the Weak Force, and the Force of Gravity.  
Matter was created after the Big Bang, when the “Bits of Information” combined in all possible ways after the Big Bang. This was the Second Expansion.
There was a first and second expansion. One before the Big Bang and one after.
The Laws Of Identity are suited for life because they are the same Laws Of Identity that created life.
The Force Of Identity can be explained mathematically by an equation: A=A . This equation, A=A, allowed the discovery of physics as a way to know and apply the Laws Of Identity. 
The Void and the Force of its Identity combined and created the Universe.     The Universe and the Force of its Identity combined and created the cosmos. Life emerged from the combining of the cosmos with the force of the cosmos. Mind evolved from the ceaseless combining of life with existence according to the Third Law of Identity. Modern man appeared, not by accident, but by the Laws of Identity, created by the Void and the Force Of Its Identity. 
A=A  is the first equation and the Universal Constant. 
The Cosmos, Life and Consciousness can be explained by the same equation, A=A, since they are a creation of the same Laws of Identity.
Understanding math is natural and crucial to human survival because math and humans are a creation of the same Law Of Identity.
We are all one with the Universe and the Creator of the Universe, because all that exists has been created by the same Laws of Identity.
James Rushing June 30, 2016 
jamesloydrushing@yahoo.com                                                                                             Copyright James Loyd Rushing All rights reserved.

@asdfagadgadfasdfag

How was the conversation at the complete beginning related to the talk?