@Regular-ishGuy
As a corporate IT guy, i see the value in this product. I can buy 50 or a 100 of these with whatever gpu is available, then upgrade select users as need. Along the way i am able to have the help desk swap parts, keep an inventory of spares, and just generally get more mileage out of the machines. For clarity purposes, I owned an MSP for a decade, and have since worked as a CIO or Director of IT for several companies. I do not believe the framework laptop would be a great fit for all the clients or businesses i have worked with, but for the ones that it does fit, it will end up saving a lot of time, stress, and as a result, cash.
@jpgdesign
This feels like a first-world take. As someone who is in a developing country (Philippines), we hold to our laptops til their last breath. I still have my 7 year-old laptop, which I've upgraded and repaired throughout the years.
@avendor7
The focus in the video was upgrading the GPU. There is nothing stopping Framework from releasing a new display, and certainly there will be mainboard options. So the Framework 16 can be upgraded in small chunks as needed over the course of its lifetime. Not everyone needs the display upgrade for example but may want CPU and or GPU. The benefit here is reducing e-waste, repair-ability, and making the laptop your own.
@briannhinton
I think it’s about the long term investment. When you upgrade a GPU in 3-5 years you can get the 2 year newer GPU for cheaper in the marketplace. It’s not about upgrading to the absolute newest, but being able to iteratively update at all, and not wasting the housing, screen, etc. I think we are at a point that updating most of the hardware on a frequent basis isn’t really necessary.
@chm2
I would want to upgrade components if Framework did a trade in program where you send in your old modules + $$$. Then maybe they can work out deals with developing countries or education sector to make use of those older modules.
@lachlanvanderdrift7013
one thing that you forgot to mention is that because you can upgrade the entire motherboard as well, framework sells small cases for them so that you can covert the left over motherboard into small nucs if you wanted to (most likely used as a home server or browser or something).
@mattotto9949
I just want to mention, not the upgrading aspect but on the reparability aspect. Laptop parts tend to cost a ton of money. If you got an older machine, that's still kicking because you pulled out the extras to get it, and something breaks, it usually costs a lot of money to get the part. Parts and availability is the main factor hurting older lappies. They overheat, you clean the fans, you snap a blade and suddenly its $$$ for replacement cooling fans. Meanwhile framework seems to have parts, first party, available and relatively well priced. I would love to replace the screen on my i7 4th gen lappy, or put it in an external case, if that was an as convenient option as it is with the framework for example.
@jjcranfill
I think the more people that buy these machines, the more the upgradability becomes price competitive. That old GPU module could be resold if there's demand for it. Also the replaceable keyboard and screen make the wear on the machine less of a concern for me personally.
@subs740
I agree with your points, sadly its expensive because of how niche it is. If Framework was operating at a much larger scale, the cost of components would be so much cheaper & those savings would be passed onto the consumer.
@bastosluis244
Not only do smaller companies buy less components from the manufacturers they buy their parts from (which means they will eventually cost more per piece), they also (in this case) have to spend considerably more money to be able to create and maintain their proposition. So now you have more expensive parts combined with more expensive manufacturing and engineering, which means their product will be more expensive in general. But that's just for now, the more they grow the more they buy, the less expensive their parts will become, and the less expensive their designs will be. So let's appreciate their existence and give them time and space to grow, they deserve it! (Btw, having all of this into consideration, 2000$ for their machines isn't bad at all!)
@zeeinfinite
It's definitely at a high price point at the moment. But remember, the main idea of repairability is to not waste; to NOT DO what you have pointed out in the video, just buy a new laptop to replace the old one. That is exactly the problem we have with smart phones. Being able to upgrade, and the whole modularity of Framework is an incredible bonus to the fact that it is repairable. It definitely caters to a specific mindset though so yeah not for everybody.
@GLugerbauer
Yes I want to because I am sick and tired of Devices that are all Glued and Soldered. Because i am tired paying Double the Price for more Ram or 100 Dollar for a Batterie Replacment so Apple can make another Super Thin Soap bar that nobody can hold Properly without a case.
@eragon190
I think this is a huge win from a sustainability point of view. Upgrading parts instead of buying a whole new device saves on raw materials. When it comes to desktops, ive been upgrading mine for the past 4 years, and its still working great. The thought of being able to do that with a laptop, and not have to buy a whole new device is very attractive.
@systemmodmen2157
I understand these concerns but I believe and like the idea of voting with your dollar so it's for a better future and also its a cool product in general
@kesslerdupont6023
I think the openness of the ecosystem around the FW laptop is what will really make it a good niche laptop.
@petergplus6667
I hope other companies start offering their own modules. Then it will be even more awesome.
@Incrazyboyy
I don’t think that the “outer” hardware wears down this quickly. I’ve owned a lot of devices that I had to replace only because of performance or dropped software support. Using a laptop for 10+ years should be no problem if you take good care of it, especially now that you can replace stuff that is broken or outdated. Even if it’s more expensive, I like the idea of sticking with a trusty device for a long time.
@Evie0133
3:16 my favorite GPU of all time, RTX 6969 :P
@timpatrick564
I think the framework 'stand-alone' case that lets someone take out the mainboard and put it into a small case to create something that can work outside of the laptop. I think expanding that to include the gpu or even offering a gpu only enclosure to make a gpu-dock would certainly increase the lifespan and 'resale' of the mainboard/gpu you replaced.
@Dave2D