@ARTHUR_MORGAN5969

It was his family, or someone who turned against him AND Arthur Morgan.

@snakepliskin3-m5y

1899: Javier Esquella 
1911: Speedy Gonzalez

@Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed

John stopped owing Javier when Javier pulled a gun on him with dutch

@dylanwilson8168

Playing through rdr1 after rdr2 really hits you in the feelings

@clipsdelosmajes

Did he? Javier along with the Dutch group betrayed them first. He decided his side. He can't ask for loyalty.

@migueltoledo1884

You can't say John betrayed Javier. They hadn't seen each other for 8 years... And the last time they met, Javier was fighting John in the name of loyalty to Dutch. John's only fault was wanting to live a life that was better than being an Outlaw always on the run...

@MidwesternSupremacy147

Its a shame how it ended with Javier. I think he was a good guy, but he was a coward at the time it mattered most

@factandsuspicionpodcast2727

Javier betrayed him. Gratitude only goes so far.

@MarcTucker-g8v

John was loyal he had to be loyal to himself in the end

@sigmmad

TBF john didn’t have a choice, yes javier and arthur saved john but the only person stayed loyal to him was arthur only, yes javier didn’t point gun at them but in that moment all john could see was his family betraying him

@SuperZachPack

Arthur, Javier, Bill and John were as close as real brothers

@rubenlopez3364

The detail they call each other “Brother” with a gun out is beautiful

@someguy715

That’s the sad thing about character development in a prequel no matter what that character has to end up the way they were before

@noir-214

When I replayed rdr1, I remembered this moment from rdr, and when I found Javier in rdr1, I didn't kill him

@Prof_Treace

Just realized when John said “it’s either you or me, may as well be you”

Dutch said the same thing to the boys when he killed Bronte in the swamp

@TheRealBlu3Raptor

Javier looked for John, and John looked for Javier…

@Footballcr177

Javier betrayed arthur and john

@Melonmakescontent

Friends ➡️ enemies

@nicholasryan5906

This isn’t even about gratitude. Javier was still an outlaw, John was trying to live a civilized life and had a wife and kid.  So like he said it was him or Javier and based on that it might as well be Javier for the sake of Jack and Abigail.

@Devoramelripio

You skipped the part where Javier, Dutch, Micah & the 2 new guys shooting at Arthur & John at nearly the end in that horse chase