@ARTHUR_MORGAN5969

It was his family, or someone who turned against him AND Arthur Morgan.

@Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed

John stopped owing Javier when Javier pulled a gun on him with dutch

@snakepliskin3-m5y

1899: Javier Esquella 
1911: Speedy Gonzalez

@clipsdelosmajes

Did he? Javier along with the Dutch group betrayed them first. He decided his side. He can't ask for loyalty.

@migueltoledo1884

You can't say John betrayed Javier. They hadn't seen each other for 8 years... And the last time they met, Javier was fighting John in the name of loyalty to Dutch. John's only fault was wanting to live a life that was better than being an Outlaw always on the run...

@factandsuspicionpodcast2727

Javier betrayed him. Gratitude only goes so far.

@MidwesternSupremacy147

Its a shame how it ended with Javier. I think he was a good guy, but he was a coward at the time it mattered most

@MarcTucker-g8v

John was loyal he had to be loyal to himself in the end

@sigmmad

TBF john didn’t have a choice, yes javier and arthur saved john but the only person stayed loyal to him was arthur only, yes javier didn’t point gun at them but in that moment all john could see was his family betraying him

@SuperZachPack

Arthur, Javier, Bill and John were as close as real brothers

@TheRealBlu3Raptor

Javier looked for John, and John looked for Javier…

@noir-214

When I replayed rdr1, I remembered this moment from rdr, and when I found Javier in rdr1, I didn't kill him

@Footballcr177

Javier betrayed arthur and john

@someguy715

That’s the sad thing about character development in a prequel no matter what that character has to end up the way they were before

@Melonmakescontent

Friends ➡️ enemies

@rubenlopez3364

The detail they call each other “Brother” with a gun out is beautiful

@IMMACUTMAN

I find it interesting in RDR1 that you get given the option to spare or kill Javier. John doesn't have a choice in hunting him down for Agent Ross but if the player decides to spare Javier then I guess in some small way John is repaying the favour, even if it means taking him in.

@nicholasryan5906

This isn’t even about gratitude. Javier was still an outlaw, John was trying to live a civilized life and had a wife and kid.  So like he said it was him or Javier and based on that it might as well be Javier for the sake of Jack and Abigail.

@Goated_ChrisBrown

The fact that John is only 26 here is crazy bro looks at least 39 lmao

@Prof_Treace

Just realized when John said “it’s either you or me, may as well be you”

Dutch said the same thing to the boys when he killed Bronte in the swamp