@skymakai

I was thinking of making this same comparison video, and you covered this wonderfully!  It's such a huge oversight that the Shinobi has RGB waveform and histogram and the Ninja V doesn't... the 5% steps for Zebras really suck, and having LUTs affect the waveform (with no option to disable) is also a real pain..   I brought this to Atomos' attention years ago.  I often go for my Shinobi instead of the Ninja V for the longer battery life, when I only need a monitor.  I wish the Ninja V could function better as a monitor like the Shinobi.

@elementary8963

I noticed the Ninja V False Colour/LUTS issue earlier today - but haven't found anyone talking about it until this video (thank you) - let's hope Atomos sort this in a firmware update!

@dwpix

I am so glad I found this video.  I am about to buy my first monitor and I am so glad I learned about the possible LUT/exposure tools situation.  Only problem is trying to find out how other monitors handle the same situation.  The Shinobi looks great!
… but I am also looking at the OSEE T7.
(I am wondering if the OSEE T7 works like the Ninja or the Shinobi).
Thanks for the warning!

@peterstrachan3609

Great video! The LUT and zebra limitations you’ve expertly highlighted also makes it impossible to ‘match’ the NinJa V with the screen on a FX3. 

But the exposure lowering when a LUT is switched on is a serious issue. 

Atomos really should sort all this out asap if technically possible. Did they ever get back to you?

I’d already bought a Ninja for the recording capability but now that I have a FX6 and a FX3 it would be nice to think it’s image/zebras etc can be matched with a Shinobi. But, as you’ve shown, it won’t. Grrrr! 

The analysis screen would be handy to have on the Ninja too.

@denisiacono134

Great video Paul as always !

@GeraldBertramPhotography

Great video. I love seeing another Ninja shooter using the Lunchbox!

@ArsyadAbiyoga

The exposure change with the LUT turned on seems like a deal breaker to me. Is the Ninja’s firmware up to date?

@mojojeff

I just tested the Port Keys LH5P. It is similar to the Shinobi but with wi-if and a metal case. I found the interface out dated but it was a great monitor with a claimed 1700 nits. In the end, I sent it back. It is hard to give up the touch tracking feature I get with the Monitor+ app and my iPhone. (Sony A7Siii and iPhone 11 pro) The Monitor+ app does have a couple of drawbacks. It needs to be reconnected any time you turn the camera off and there doesn't seem to be a focus zoom feature.

@lonewolfsmoto

So helpful!  Thank you for this!

@OmniVisionElite

Thank you for sharing this info!

@Evapors

Thank you as a film student with a Sony fx6 I want a bigger monitor! I’m in the research phase.

@peterstrachan1794

Just in from Atomos 04/03/2023: "As Shinobi is our monitor series of devices, we mainly focused on our monitor-recorders, which is why the Ninja V has this difference with the Shinobi...
 
Regarding the exposure value issue, we would like to clarify that the Shinobi is designed to show the exposure value before the LUT is applied, while the Ninja V is designed to show the true exposure value after a LUT is applied. We understand that you want both screens to match, but the difference is due to the device's design. Nevertheless, your requests have been added to our list of feature requests and will be considered for future implementation.
 
However, we are unable to provide you with a time-frame at the moment.

@rafael_daguerre

In summary, Shinobi is better as a monitor, with more tools and quality, but it doesn't record, which is a big difference, because the Ninja V generates recording in ProRes 10bits 422. I had already decided to buy the Ninja V, but seeing this review, I have some doubts.

Perhaps the Ninja V+ is a combination of the two. I don't know.

My first objective is without a doubt to monitor. Shinobi became the choice after much research within this price range. But after I found out that with Ninja V my Canon M6 MK II records in ProRes 10 Bits via HDMI cable, I decided for it. I got excited. Afterwards, I was a bit put off when I learned that Canon has limited itself to 4K 30fps and 1080p 60fps via HDMI. Hard to understand. In PAL it records at 25fps, which can be an option.

In short, if I buy the Ninja V it will most likely be with the idea of using it to record with another camera, because I work at 24fps. And with the M6 MK II use it only as a monitor.

@PaulJoy

I've only been using the Ninja V for a few weeks so I might be missing something, let me know if that's the case. I haven't seen anyone else mention the way it handles LUTS as being strange which seems odd as it's been available a long time now.

@bettadenu7

Hi I’m sort of new to using monitors and I picked up the shinobi but I’m just having issues with the battery side of things ? What type of battery is best for the shinobi and what is the battery pack that came with the shinobi I’m so confused

@TehDrasticGamer

Does the Ninja Flame have the same LUT exposure issues?

@coloredcatpictures1231

Does the Shinobu give you the ability to use the tap touch screen focus options as on the fx3 screen? 
Any camera control options?

Thx

@thidm

I use the rule of 3rds grid on my camera screen and when i use my Shinobi, the grid doesn't show in the monitor screen. Is there any way to make them visible on the external monitor? Thanks

@shyland20

didn't understand how the lots working. is the monitor changing the lot will be recorded to the sd card of the camera? lets say i have a lot i install name  "bvlgari" on the shinobi now the camera will record the footage with this lot to the sd card on the nikon?

@0newithmisery

What if I record 4k@60p videos with my camera? Doesn't the Shinobi output any image at all then?
Theoretically, the 60p signal would simply have to be output in 30p. Right?