A lot of you wanted my thoughts on the mod as a whole, so here they are. I really did enjoy my time playing it and it's only because it has so much potential yet uncovered or yet unfinished that I got so passionate about it. Space Exploration remains a great mod and I eagerly await what's the come, even if it does mean I might need to revisit it at some point. Please don't blacklist me Earendel.
I totally feel the 'hit N to enter satellite mode'. That feeling never goes away.
It amuses me to no end how this entire mod basically ended up becoming a contender for “worlds biggest résumé”
As someone with the inability to form my own opinions I shall take everything in this video as gospel and shall constantly spread it to others about what you say as objective fact. Thank you for enlightenment.
It's amazing how accurately dosh predicted the expansion in the part from 6:55 to 7:30. Space age is exactly that. More isolated planets, science that can only be produced there.
I can definitely agree with the Nauvis point - I really messed up early game in terms of biter management and was actually forced off the planet and never bothered coming back. In essence, I had to figure a way to salvage the game while hiding in orbit. Eventually I chose Calidus' asteroid belt for my entire base, which very quickly fixed the lack of logistical problems. Because I had to deal with things like limited oil from methane, I had to actually take time to plan my moves because there wasn't any fallback (short of reverting to a much older save). Also, I played with an air filtration mod which could inefficiently convert pollution to light oil/water, and light oil to coal. This was actually quite fun to test because factories would sometimes rely on properly recapturing pollution and dealing with byproducts. Definitely shook things up from the standard "resources in, resources out" style of planetary factories.
"Late game space exploration is like getting stuck in traffic" agreed 100%. I'm about 250 hours in, on a group playthrough that's been going on for over a year and a half. there's been a ton of incredible moments in the mod - going to orbit for the first time, designing your own spaceship, arcospheres, and so on. but now we're at the phase where we're just waiting around for the research to slowly tick by since so much naqium is required. it's been a great ride, but yeah this video really captures all the frustrations we've felt over those 250 hours
the sphere organizer was truly something of beauty. I don't know if that's what the devs intend or you are just a genius but I'm too dumb to figure that out. thanks for playing through so I could see what the endgame looks like.
I mean, if the mod developers are looking for feedback from someone, you should be towards the top of that list, you cataloged your whole experience through the whole run step by step, they can just compare that to the experience they were expecting to give people and see where they failed and succeeded, on top of you having played other mods and factorio for so long, big ups to your opinion
The idea of having cargo rockets come after space ships really resonated with me. For me messing around with space ship designs was the highlight of SE.
The idea of starting with a broken ship, and repairing it to go to space is such a great starter goal. That would totally encourage exploration as well
love how incredible the bases ended up looking look foward to maybe seeing a pyanodon playthrough in a year or fews time once youve recovered
7:20 predicted a bunch of DLC mechanics here
Honestly space exploration is one of the best overhaul mods being complicated but not like seablock or pyanadonns
Rewatching this after playing Space Age for a bit, it's interesting to see that your request for more isolation in the multi-surface logistics was actually answered
I'm currently a little over 100 hours into my second SE playthrough (my first one being abandoned around 80 hours), and while I'm not as far in as you are, you've echoed a lot of my feelings thus far. I... admire Space Exploration more than I love it. It fills a desire that AngelBob couldn't, which is the hunger to see massive eight-lane belts fill up once you turn a factory on. AngelBob had too many little things to build, which led me to gravitate to a cell structure that, while sort of cool, just didn't hit that Big Dispatch Serotonin urge. I love the scope. I love the planning process of figuring out what I'm going to need on a new planet, carefully assembling all my materials, making sure everything on Nauvis is working without supervision, setting off, and swearing as I learn I forgot something basic. There's a lot to love, but to bring it back to AngelBob - in AB one of my greatest challenges was figuring out how to utilise or at least divert byproducts. In SE it's disappointingly straightforward. But the real issue to is the abundance of - well, I'm not sure what term to use exactly, but let's say "single-use intermediaries" There are so many recipe chains that consist of "combine input A with B to make C, which can only be used to make D, which can only be used to make E, which can..." It's not a problem at first, but after you've made your tenth production chain that is just shepherding one unique resource through half a dozen stages until it produces its one unique output, it really does start to feel like busy work. I should add that I'm still enjoying my playthrough, and have no intention to stop. This is partially because I have debilitating brain parasites, but this is a Factorio video so I expect I'm in good company. But while I haven't gotten as far as you have, the overridding theme of a lack of interconnectedness absolutely rings true, and I do hope this is addressed in the future. Still, if it isn't, and in the eventuality that the SE devs see this, I want first and foremost to express my absolute admiration for this mod. I have niggles, and I know that it is the nature of a creative to overly focus on those, but even so this is a truly spectacular construction you have created, and for whatever reservations I may feel I have absolutely nothing but admiration for you. This mod could never see another update ever again, and I would still delight in it.
it is hilarious how many of the proposals came to existance in space age
It's funny that many of these ideas ended up making their way into the planned Factorio DLC, created with the help of the original mod author who was hired by the Factorio devs. I think this video has some pretty big importance. Thank you for putting it as its own separate video where it's easy to references, instead of tacking the conclusion onto part 4 of the other series.
Watching this a month before the Space Age DLC drops and it’s interesting how many of these issues have been “fixed” in Space Age (and I know, SA is not Space Exploration).
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